In this interview, former Catholic Worker and Marquette University student Mary Durnin speaks about the early days and personalities of the Catholic Worker, including Dorothy Day and Peter Maurin. She mentions how Day's absolute pacifist stance led to rifts within the movement leading up to and during World War II, and discusses at length her time at Maryfarm in Easton, Penn., two religious retreats, and her admiration for Fr. Pacifique Roy. Durnin talks about leaving the Catholic Worker and returning home to Wisconsin. Durnin and the interviewer periodically discuss the confused state of American society, and how the Catholic Worker has become more inclusive and moved away from religion. Interviewed by Deane Mowrer.